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El blanko
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JW's and Material Love
by JH in1 john 2:15
15 do not be loving either the world or the things in the world.
if anyone loves the world, the love of the father is not in him; 16 because everything in the world?the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one?s means of life?does not originate with the father, but originates with the world.
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is religon-bashing ok, and if yes, when?
by googlemagoogle intoday i read "doubtfully your's" comment on wiccans and i was shocked.
i wanted to reply immediately about tolerance and to respect another religion.
then i thought about him having a sister, smoking pot and presenting herself as pagan giving him some bad impression (prejudice?
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El blanko
For me, I like to examine a person based around their ethics, rather than their religion.
I think most humans can agree upon a common code of behaviour to ensure our collective rights, aside from the clearly psychotic
So, before learning why a man decides to follow Kabbalah, for instance, I view that person as a fellow human and see where our minds meet before senseless "bashing" of his ideas.
Religion as an abstract concept is fair game though and deserves scrutiny.
Afterall, religion ticks at the heart of many societies that have persecuted their neighbours " in the name of ".
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some advice about meeting door to door jws
by Hepzibah inhi im new here and found this forum via a search engine - i am a practicing christian and the other day i had a knock on the door - got into an interesting conversation with two jws and as i didnt have much time invited them back - in the meantime they had posted a booklet on the trinity or there version of it and when they came back the novice had been replaced by someone who had obviously had a lot more experience at talking to christians
i didnt want to get into a bible debate - and asked them about their salvation and how they knew they were saved - but they just seemed to be reading from a different script than me - as much as i tried we ended up batting bible texts back and forth
anyway to sum up - they want to come back to do a bible study on any topic i choose
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El blanko
you know, they prepared what they are going to tell you. no matter what you say, they'll keep switching back to their topic. after all, that's the topic they prepared.
That is true, but if you have enough of an assertive character and keep switching it back to your own subject, it can work. This worked with a sister I spoke to last week and she had no choice but to keep on my track. She attempted to bounce me through a few scriptures, but I saw what she was trying to do, so remained one step ahead. I do mean assertive in a kind way as well - I played to her heart, rather than her mind. She is a well established and well versed sister, so I know it is possible as long as you keep your cool and know the game in advance.
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Little Toe are you back?
by under74 ini see you pokin' your nose in....just a quick visit or looking to take back your title as the #1 poster on jwd?
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El blanko
Funny that, I was wonderin' where "the Toe" had got to yesterday.
I used to enjoy his comments.
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some advice about meeting door to door jws
by Hepzibah inhi im new here and found this forum via a search engine - i am a practicing christian and the other day i had a knock on the door - got into an interesting conversation with two jws and as i didnt have much time invited them back - in the meantime they had posted a booklet on the trinity or there version of it and when they came back the novice had been replaced by someone who had obviously had a lot more experience at talking to christians
i didnt want to get into a bible debate - and asked them about their salvation and how they knew they were saved - but they just seemed to be reading from a different script than me - as much as i tried we ended up batting bible texts back and forth
anyway to sum up - they want to come back to do a bible study on any topic i choose
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El blanko
I suppose you could accept the Bible study and then come back here before each session for a briefing. The various heads on this board could equip you with information and an insiders point of view, before you tackle "your chosen subject".
It has to be worth a shot!
All the best with whatever you decide to do.
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Calling All Ex Witnesses
by FiveShadows init's me again...most of you don't remember me, but i am in need of personal experiences and comments that you may help me out with.
i met someone online who has apparently turned out to be a good associate of mine.
however, she has informed me that though she has her own beliefs and hates religion itself, she does like to get different perspectives on what people believe.
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El blanko
Most of you don't remember me
I remember you - I used to sign here under a different name and then lost all my details - couldn't be bothered to chase them up, so started a new account.
How's it going dude.
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Advantages to being a JW
by MGonzales ini'd say that the biggest advantage of being a jw is that you learn the bible.
growing up a jw (never baptized), i had many friends (mostly catholic) who didn't even know where most books of the bible were even located.
jws really do learn and study the bible and this knowledge becomes very helpful once you start looking at the bible more objectively and not with wts binders.
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El blanko
Being a Witness taught me the joys of having to wear a full suit, on a summers day, in a sister's house, whilst studying the big red Climax book ... (man - I used to really sweat during those sessions).
On a more serious note, being a witness did instill discipline through a period of my life when it was needed. I had fallen into a drug habit and a deep depression. A few years of association with the JWs really helped, then I started to slowly fade away.
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What's the purpose of restrictions after reinstatement?
by truthseeker inthe parable of the prodigal son.
i will set out and go back to my father and say to him: father, i have sinned against heaven and against you.
" "my son," the father said, "you are always with me, and everything i have is yours.
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El blanko
izz2cool
That's an interesting observation and I can see how that psychology could work in practise.
It is a weird rule isn't it. I understand why they do it, but as has already been said, I can't see where the Bible supports the rule. I'm sure a practising JW would put a "spin" on a scripture or two
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When the desire to preach dies.
by El blanko in.
i have realized lately that i am far less "preachy" than i used to be and as a result, i do not feel as far up my own backside as i used to.. i think my ego is finally, finally, becoming easier to whip and control.
i grew tired of hearing my own voice.. do you feel this way?.
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El blanko
Mr Zen Nudist:
I can see where you are coming from and that sounds like an interesting book of studies.
I have tried in recent times to strip myself of harsh judgement towards others and it has been a challenge. I have found it necessary to stay away from those who harshly judge others, themselves.
This has meant seperating myself from friends who really want to go back to the Kingdom Hall. Their mentality upsets me and borders upon being psychotic.
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When the desire to preach dies.
by El blanko in.
i have realized lately that i am far less "preachy" than i used to be and as a result, i do not feel as far up my own backside as i used to.. i think my ego is finally, finally, becoming easier to whip and control.
i grew tired of hearing my own voice.. do you feel this way?.
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El blanko
i like to talk religion and history if the topic comes up, but i don't get into those heated debates anymore.
I can relate to that. I have a group of friends who just love to have a big argument that personally leaves my nerves shattered. I decided a while ago to sit on the sidelines and all I noticed was a game taking place.
Mostly semantics in fact.
All that "point scoring" is exhausting